Greg -
Thanks for the clarification on Union Terminal Company - maybe I can find the image - my files are scattered on 3 or 4 computers. I do have a couple of construction pics handy will post separately
Re Fort Warren / Warren's Trading Post, I've seen the marker many times and made a few trips to the river just to get a feel of the terrain, not expecting there might be any remains, and not even sure if the river course has changed.
As I recall one of the problems in reconciling Lucy Trent's Bryan biography is she cites his foray into Indian Territory and down the Kiamichi / Kiamitia in 1837 and that he met Coffee on Bois d'Arc Creek, which is as you know the site of Fort Inglish.
Now that could coincide with the Holland and Sophia Coffee wedding trip from Washington on the Brazos to Washita Bend and Bryan might have made the encounter somewhere along the route. Given Colville's and Coffee's business interests in Van Buren Bryan may have already made their acquaintance.
John Neely Bryan Jr was the source for Bryan having been employed by Coffee at Washita Bend but that could have been at a later time and possibly have coincided with Cooke's Military Road Expedition in the winter of 1840-41. That scenario would fit with Bryan being recorded on the 1840 census in Van Buren, returning there to settle his affairs after learning of the planned road to the Three Forks, and arrive at the future site of Dallas in November 1841.
I do have a copy of Coffee's last will and testament - need to compare to Bryan's handwriting, just a long shot.
The other ingredient is the Beeman family tradition they met Bryan before either arrived / returned to the Three Forks. The Beemans entered Texas early December 1840 and were in the De Kalb / Boston vicinity until the early fall of 1841 when they removed to Bird's Fort.
So many questions - so few records; It's all just a crap shoot guessing game.
M C
Thanks for the clarification on Union Terminal Company - maybe I can find the image - my files are scattered on 3 or 4 computers. I do have a couple of construction pics handy will post separately
Re Fort Warren / Warren's Trading Post, I've seen the marker many times and made a few trips to the river just to get a feel of the terrain, not expecting there might be any remains, and not even sure if the river course has changed.
As I recall one of the problems in reconciling Lucy Trent's Bryan biography is she cites his foray into Indian Territory and down the Kiamichi / Kiamitia in 1837 and that he met Coffee on Bois d'Arc Creek, which is as you know the site of Fort Inglish.
Now that could coincide with the Holland and Sophia Coffee wedding trip from Washington on the Brazos to Washita Bend and Bryan might have made the encounter somewhere along the route. Given Colville's and Coffee's business interests in Van Buren Bryan may have already made their acquaintance.
John Neely Bryan Jr was the source for Bryan having been employed by Coffee at Washita Bend but that could have been at a later time and possibly have coincided with Cooke's Military Road Expedition in the winter of 1840-41. That scenario would fit with Bryan being recorded on the 1840 census in Van Buren, returning there to settle his affairs after learning of the planned road to the Three Forks, and arrive at the future site of Dallas in November 1841.
I do have a copy of Coffee's last will and testament - need to compare to Bryan's handwriting, just a long shot.
The other ingredient is the Beeman family tradition they met Bryan before either arrived / returned to the Three Forks. The Beemans entered Texas early December 1840 and were in the De Kalb / Boston vicinity until the early fall of 1841 when they removed to Bird's Fort.
So many questions - so few records; It's all just a crap shoot guessing game.
M C