Greg Jaynes Wrote:
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> old man from dallas Wrote:
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> > BillB Wrote:
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> > > I've heard of these two Dallas judges all of
> my
> > > life.
> > > I know they were tied in with Lyndon Johnson.
> > > Does anyone remember anything about them?
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> > Hughes was quite a woman, much to be admired.
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> [www.tshaonline.org]
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> > /fhu68
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> [www.star-telegram.com]
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> > eres-more-to-know-about-sarah.html
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> > Sanders, too, was an admirable judge. Ardent
> > segregationists would disagree:
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> That's not really fair Dave. To resent his
> judicial over reach in instituting
> bussing does not make one a "Ardent
> segregationalist". All he did was run
> white kids out of the DISD.
>
> Does anyone think that is a good thing?
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>
> [en.wikipedia.org]
> hool_District
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> Dallas ISD Ethnicity Data 2006–2007 [3]
> Ethnicity Number of Students Percent
> African American 46,948 29.6%
> Hispanic 101,997 64.2%
> White 8,004 5.0%
> Native American 379 0.2%
> Asian/Pacific Islander 1,486 0.9%
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> Respectfully,
> Greg Jaynes
Well, Jaynes, I stand by what I said. The kids parents took them out of DISD, not Sanders. So, if there had been no busing, and thus no integration, the white kids would have stayed? Sanders just saw to it that the school district obeyed the law and the constitution. The choice of where to live was made by the parents. It seems that they were segregationists, in that they moved to keep their kids from attending school with African Americans. Was Sanders supposed to allow the school district to continue de facto segregation? Separate but equal was never equal, and was never right.
I realize that there is de facto segregation in Dallas now, in that there are few white kids in the schools. But that is similar to many other major cities, non-whites in the city, whites in the suburbs. It is not something Sanders created. It is also the case that the suburbs are integrated now, and had the white parents not been so hasty in leaving, DISD would have been integrated for a time. They left for segregation's sake. Socioeconomic factors would likely have led to the same pattern that exists now, eventually. However, it would have taken a lot longer to evolve.
When I graduated from Kimball in 1963, it was 99.99% white, with a handful of Hispanic kids. So was SOC. When I returned to teach at SOC four years later, SOC was 99.99% African American. Sanders was not yet on the scene as a judge, he was not a judge until Jimmy Carter appointed him in 1979. As soon as the first African American student enrolled at a previously whites only school, the segregationists started fleeing.
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> old man from dallas Wrote:
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> -----
> > BillB Wrote:
> >
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>
> > -----
> > > I've heard of these two Dallas judges all of
> my
> > > life.
> > > I know they were tied in with Lyndon Johnson.
> > > Does anyone remember anything about them?
> >
> > Hughes was quite a woman, much to be admired.
> >
> >
> [www.tshaonline.org]
>
> > /fhu68
> >
> >
> [www.star-telegram.com]
>
> > eres-more-to-know-about-sarah.html
> >
> > Sanders, too, was an admirable judge. Ardent
> > segregationists would disagree:
>
> That's not really fair Dave. To resent his
> judicial over reach in instituting
> bussing does not make one a "Ardent
> segregationalist". All he did was run
> white kids out of the DISD.
>
> Does anyone think that is a good thing?
>
>
> [en.wikipedia.org]
> hool_District
>
> Dallas ISD Ethnicity Data 2006–2007 [3]
> Ethnicity Number of Students Percent
> African American 46,948 29.6%
> Hispanic 101,997 64.2%
> White 8,004 5.0%
> Native American 379 0.2%
> Asian/Pacific Islander 1,486 0.9%
>
>
>
> Respectfully,
> Greg Jaynes
Well, Jaynes, I stand by what I said. The kids parents took them out of DISD, not Sanders. So, if there had been no busing, and thus no integration, the white kids would have stayed? Sanders just saw to it that the school district obeyed the law and the constitution. The choice of where to live was made by the parents. It seems that they were segregationists, in that they moved to keep their kids from attending school with African Americans. Was Sanders supposed to allow the school district to continue de facto segregation? Separate but equal was never equal, and was never right.
I realize that there is de facto segregation in Dallas now, in that there are few white kids in the schools. But that is similar to many other major cities, non-whites in the city, whites in the suburbs. It is not something Sanders created. It is also the case that the suburbs are integrated now, and had the white parents not been so hasty in leaving, DISD would have been integrated for a time. They left for segregation's sake. Socioeconomic factors would likely have led to the same pattern that exists now, eventually. However, it would have taken a lot longer to evolve.
When I graduated from Kimball in 1963, it was 99.99% white, with a handful of Hispanic kids. So was SOC. When I returned to teach at SOC four years later, SOC was 99.99% African American. Sanders was not yet on the scene as a judge, he was not a judge until Jimmy Carter appointed him in 1979. As soon as the first African American student enrolled at a previously whites only school, the segregationists started fleeing.
